Ep: 121: Crypto The Game finale feelings check-in with it's creator, Dylan Abruscato

[00:01] Welcome to the Feelings Check-In, a feelings first look at the news of the week. Takes no one asked for on topics everyone's talking about. I'm Natasha Hoskins. I'm Dina Burke. And this is Boys Club. Wait, is it just Boys Club? It's just Boys Club. The Boys Club podcast? No. [00:18] No. [00:19] Just boy stuff. [00:20] Guess what? Boys Club is doing our very first conference called Brand New. Dina, what are we going to be talking about? So we're going to be covering a lot of the stuff that we cover on this podcast. Crypto, of course, the new internet, digital culture, emerging technology. We'll be at the Austin proper on March 12th, and we're pulling in some of the smartest people we know. [00:50] Today, go buy your ticket. Members and zaddy holders get special pricing. And if you aren't a member, you can apply to attend brand new. So go to boysclub.vip backslash brand new link and show notes to get all the details and can't wait to see you in Austin. Yeehaw! [01:07] We have a real treat today on the feelings check-in. [01:11] We had on Dylan, the... Dylan, the Dylan, the man, the mystery, the main character of Twitter this week. The twisted mind that has brought us crypto the game. And it has absorbed our entire lives. And this podcast as well. So apologies for how much we're talking about it. But if you have been like, what's been going on? This is a great episode. He's

[01:38] Just a lovely person and has built a really fun consumer crypto application. There it is. You love to see it. You love to see it. I do want to say we had a team offsite scheduled for this week. Natasha, myself and Miranda in person. An opportunity for us to get together in person and do some strategy and some road mapping and some planning for the year ahead. [02:02] did not do much of that nope floppy because yeah did a lot of angry bird or floppy bird or whatever yeah crypto the game really drove a wedge right through our the boys club off site yeah next time season two i'm taking 10 days off um poor miranda was such a good sport about it and she was not a player and she had to deal with being around two players and that's annoying and it's probably annoying for people who didn't play [02:32] It's... [02:33] a novel experience... [02:36] that he created that is like, I don't know, there's something in it. So yeah. And even if you didn't play and even if you are not into computer games, which I'm not, and if you've never watched survivor, which I know some people haven't, this is still great interview. He's a fantastic builder. He's put something out that's really fun and interesting. And it's really cool to hear his story and to just talk about what's happening. So give it a listen. Also, I'm going [02:59] If you're in New York City and you played Crypto the Game, we're going and getting some drinks tonight to lick our wounds. So DM me on Twitter if you want to come hang.

[03:10] We put something out this week that I'm really excited about with PYUSD, PayPal stablecoin. Dina, do you want to tell or do you want me to? [03:18] I could tell. So we are, as many of you know, [03:22] You probably heard the ad spot a few times. We're doing a summit during South by Southwest in March in Austin. [03:28] The brand new summit, it's Boys Club's first full day summit. It's going to be all things consumer crypto, new consumer internet, creativity, marketing, [03:38] uh, [03:39] Thank you. [03:40] What's another C word that I can say? Commerce. There it is. So we're doing a full day of programming. We have folks like Lee Jin from Variant. We have Dee Goins, who's the founder of Zora, coming by for keynotes. Tahini from Try Your Best and After Voices and Joggy. So a lot of really incredible speakers and folks that are coming by to do talks and workshops, a full day of fun. So if you haven't already bought your ticket, do that now. But the thing that we launched this week specifically is with PayPal PYUSD. [04:10] PayPal's stablecoin, and they are sponsoring three [04:14] creators to come to Austin, [04:16] during those few days for an expenses paid trip, [04:19] Incredible. Incredible. [04:21] To come and hang out with us at Brand New, I will say also concurrently to Brand New is South by Southwest, which is the... [04:28] cultural, [04:29] technology conference in the states i'd say it's like one of the biggest ones so as a creator to be able to come down to austin and experience brand new in real life and then have the whole ambiance of south by southwest around you and all the insane events and meetups and parties and stuff that happens around that conference is really special so what you have to do to enter is post something online

[04:54] a video, a post that explains why something, a thread that works to you, why you want to come. And we will be sharing those links around with the Boy Scope community. And basically, the folks that get the most engagement on their posts, we will invite down the top three. So we're really, really excited about this one. More information in the show notes, if you want to learn more about how to apply. Also, if you hold 20 PYUSD in your wallet, you can get $100 off to [05:24] tickets. So pretty hot get. So fun stuff. [05:28] Hope to see you in Austin. Give this episode a listen. [05:58] Thank you. [06:09] On today's podcast, we have Dylan Abruscato, a very special guest, very excited for this conversation. He is the founder, creator of Crypto the Game, which has been torturing. [06:21] So many of us this week. So we're excited to get into that. Previously, Dylan was at HQ Trivia Party Round, which was then Capital. Dylan, welcome to the show. Thanks so much for having me. And thanks even more for playing the game. I was bummed to see that you guys were each eliminated, but it leads for more time to chat today. I was gonna say, I was voted off last night. So I have notes. I have notes for you.

[06:51] Thank you. [06:51] Obviously, always down to chat about everything related to the game, but I was listening to last week's podcast and there were some criticisms that I had to come on and defend my honor. Oh, no! [07:05] All valid, all valid, all valid. In fairness, we did say, so for new listeners, we did some unpacking of our experience. At that point, it was very early on in the game on last week's podcast, but we did say... [07:19] No one asked for her. [07:20] our feedback. No one asked for our notes, but we're getting them anyway. I appreciate the notes. And the most amazing thing about building as we go, is that we have just been like literally shipping live updates based on feedback we hear on podcasts and on Twitter spaces and in DMs. So, [07:37] That's great. I also feel like sometimes Dina and I forget that we're [07:41] recording and that other people are listening this often happens i'm like oh it's not that big of a deal it's not that serious whatever we said no honestly it was great it was great okay so for people who weren't playing this week can you give us a quick description of the concept of crypto the game [07:57] Yeah, so at the highest level, it's a massive crypto survivor game, very similar to the reality TV show Survivor. In this case, everyone buys in for 0.1 ETH, which goes to a pot, and everyone's randomly assigned to a tribe, and basically over the course of 10 days, [08:16] The tribes compete against each other, vote players out from within their tribe, and essentially the last person standing wins the entire pot. And within that there are

[08:27] daily challenges and 24/7 chats and collusion and chaos and backstabbing that takes place on and off the platform. But yeah, it's basically a massive crypto survivor game. [08:39] I love it. Dina and I have... [08:41] been playing, obviously, if you listen at all, you've been hearing us talk about it. And I think I'd heard about Crypto the Game [08:47] Maybe like [08:48] a few months before it had launched and Tyler, who's on your team, had... [08:54] reworked the boys club website as a part of something you guys were doing, I think at party round or at Capitol and I, [09:02] He's our hero. And we always joke anytime we're doing anything on our website, we're like, Tyler, the best person in the world. Like we are so grateful. He's literally the best in the world at what he does. He's so good. And anyway, so we at Boys Club have just been rooting for you guys and excited to play. I am also I got into Survivor during the pandemic. I think many people did. My husband has this is like I'm airing his dirty secret, but he's watched every single season, every single episode of Survivor. [09:32] So he's like a real, really into one of us, one of us. Like started watching it in high school and then whatever. [09:40] Has been super into it. And then during the pandemic, he was like, you gotta, you gotta get into this with me. And now I'm a huge Survivor fan. It's the best reality TV show ever. [09:48] on the planet. I don't know. It's really great. Yeah. And so was very much looking forward to this game and didn't know what to expect at all and had so much fun. And so first off, congratulations. It's been great.

[10:00] Such a huge success. So clearly you've hit a nerve with a lot of people just wanting to have fun on the internet with their friends and meet new people and do something that feels fresh on chain, which has been what you've done, which is amazing. Wow, thank you so much. You're welcome. I'd love to hear. How are you feeling? So tired. Couldn't be more tired. No, it's been great. Honestly, it's currently day nine of 10. So we have 61 players left. [10:30] one individual immunity that's out there and guarantee themselves the spot in tomorrow's finale. And yeah, honestly, I'm so blown away by the [10:40] support and participation and virality of this thing. I'm a first time founder and this is an idea that's always been in the back of my mind. And it's one of those things where it was like, [10:53] I always wanted to build it. [10:54] because I always wanted to play it. And I think that is why it's resonating with so many people. I wasn't just trying to, you know, force something on chain for the sake of it being on chain or, you know, I've been a Survivor fan my whole life. I apply every season, I never got a callback, but I've literally just always wanted to play Survivor. And I've always wanted to play Survivor online with my friends. So that was like, [11:17] the earliest impetus behind the idea. [11:20] And [11:21] Yeah, to answer your question, I'm tired first, but just grateful, grateful after that because [11:27] Yeah, it's just amazing to see so many people that are having fun with an idea that you thought of, basically. What has been the process of building it? So I understand it's you, it's Tyler, it's one other person. Yeah, Brian. Bootstrapped, I understand. How long have you guys been working on this and how has that process gone?

[11:44] Yeah, so it's been about two months, which is wild, because if I know you both played, but the amount of just like product and engineering work that that has gone into this thing is is insane from the sound effects, the animations, the orbs. And I know Ty did your site, and it looks incredible. But like, he just went all out with orbs and countdowns and animations and transitions and waves and lightning. And it's so good. Stressing us all out. I got to say those countdowns, man. [12:14] I know, I know, I know, I know. I'm so glad. But yeah, I'd say it's like, it's an idea that I've had kind of my whole life. I grew up playing this CD-ROM game called Survivor Ultimate in like, you know, 2002. That was probably the most rudimentary form of the game that you see now, which is you [12:36] pick one of a few cast members to play as and you play the most simple challenges that are so easy to win and you vote people out and the whole thing takes place in the course of like a half hour and like but for some reason i just like kept going and i kept playing because i kept wanting to play survivor as a kid but you know fast forward to 2018 i joined hq trivia um which i know you had mentioned uh and and for those of you listening or uh for either of you if you if you didn't play [13:06] live interactive mobile game show, where if you answered increasingly difficult trivia questions with a live host, and you got them all correct, you won or split a cash prize. And it went bonkers viral. You know, this thing, Crypto the Game, has, you know, hundreds of players, has had millions of live concurrence seemingly overnight. And the reason that I joined HQ and was so excited about it was this kind of grand vision of a live interactive TV network. So in the same way that HQ took a

[13:36] game show and made it live and mobile and interactive. [13:39] essentially for the internet. The same could have and should have been said for a Shark Tank format or a talent competition or a dating show. And in my mind, as a huge Survivor fan, the Survivor format. So first had this idea, I'd say like properly internally at HQ in 2018. And it's just been one of those things that's always been in the back of my mind every time I'm [14:00] thinking about what's next career-wise or between jobs. Should I build that survivor game? And you can talk to any of my friends from HQ or just personal friends. It's just one of those things I've always been talking about. [14:13] Fast forward to a few months ago, Capital, which is what Party Round rebranded to, was acquired by a larger neobank in the space. And luckily, Ty, who was on my team at Party Round and Capital, is a fellow Survivor fan. And we kind of just like immediately bonded over the idea of properly building this thing. Luckily, Brian, who was also with us at Party Round and Capital, was on board as well. And he has, before Capital, he was at DraftKings, so has a ton of experience. [14:43] Thank you. [14:43] building out gaming infrastructure and things like that. So yeah, we just kind of all agreed to do it for fun and rev share and equity split and have just kind of been like nonstop grinding on it for the last few months. [14:56] It feels a little full circle, Dina, because when Dina and I first met and the jobs where we found each other, we were working at a company and it was during the HQ trivia craze. And our office was so into it. Like everybody blocked off meetings. Like everyone would go into the conference room. It was just crazy.

[15:15] I remember the mayhem of that time. And it was really interesting to sort of have the same experience this week with Dina, where we're like, drop everything. It's noon. It's time. So I would love to hear more about your decision making around incorporating crypto, doing this on chain. Why was that important to you and the team? And what do you feel? [15:37] like this tooling enables in a different sort of way what you've said you've had this idea for years and so i'm curious when that idea sort of merged with what's happening yeah i'd say it was kind of like a combination of things um you know when i first thought of this in 2018 it definitely wasn't a crypto game i'd say probably around the time that i you know minted my first nft and i i was a huge i say was but i still am like an obsessive baseball card collector and the experience and [16:07] or a good one or an autograph or a relic [16:10] Like that experience was mimicked for the first time, like post-reveal, seeing what you got when you minted an NFT, basically, if it was a good one or a rare one, etc. So that was the kind of first light bulb personal moment for me that this is really fun. And there are fun ways that we can build things on the Internet using this technology. [16:40] and having them withdrawing funds and just between processing times. And I think we lost money on a bunch of transactions if they weren't under a certain threshold for withdrawal. I just personally couldn't imagine building a game where you pay players on any other financial rail.

[16:57] And then the last reason is probably just the audience. Like you need to be chronically online to be good at this game. You need to be willing to spend the equivalent of a couple hundred dollars to buy into this game. And a lot of the puzzles that we're using for challenges are on-chain puzzles. And I always thought that was very fun to solve. [17:27] for this survivor game. So yeah, I think it's just like this, this, [17:31] audience or corner of the internet that we're all part of just seemed the most ripe and down to try something fun on the internet. [17:40] I couldn't imagine like, [17:42] having to convince 400 Web2 consumers to spend a couple hundred dollars on a game. The crypto culture side of it, and like you're speaking to this very engaged [17:53] also very well networked audience has been a huge part of why it's been so successful. But I think it's really interesting, the sort of crypto payment rails part of it as well, and kind of makes me think, how can you port that over into other platforms? [18:07] gaming experiences that maybe it's survivor and [18:10] but maybe it's survivor with like a different niche on the internet that maybe isn't crypto culture, maybe it's something else. And so I think that unlock around sort of like the pool of, [18:20] crypto, easy in, easy out. [18:24] TBD legality. We won't have to talk about that, but like that feels like it could be on lock for

[18:31] Other... [18:32] good games that feels really exciting. And I'm sure you're thinking about as well. Yeah, 100%. I think it's luckily it's a game of skill and not a game of chance. It's not just a raffle or lottery or anything like that because of the challenges and the voting. But yeah, I mean, the goal has always been to get progressively more on chain with each season. So for season one, the extent of the crypto was basically... [19:00] sending 0.1 ETH to the multisig and sending 90% of the pot to the winner's address on file at the end of the season. But this was always meant to be a V1 for our immediate networks. And I'm blown away by the response, but it was intentionally built for a few hundred people. I think for season two, we're really excited about this mechanic where you mint an NFT, which is your slot in the game. And when you get voted out, that NFT burns. But [19:27] Similar to hedging a parlay, you could hypothetically sell that NFT, which is your slot in the game at any point throughout the competition for a lot more than what you paid to get in. So Natasha, for example, like yesterday, if you felt like you were on the chopping block or in Jeopardy, you could have sold your... I didn't. I didn't think I was going to be on the chopping block. That's the thing. Everyone thinks they're going to win if they're still in.

[19:57] more than you paid for. [19:59] just fun mechanics like that that I'm really excited to introduce for future seasons. And I think something that Survivor has done really well is this like, [20:07] It's kept this high level idea of everyone's on the island and you vote each other off and there are tribes, last person wins the pot. But every season there's a twist. So I'm thinking of calling season two Anon Island and this is this like NFT based mechanic, but Survivor had Redemption Island in one season, which I would love to do. And I'm sure you both would have loved that as well for this season where basically if you get eliminated, there are kind of like [20:30] off-channel challenges that you can complete to try to get back in. And yeah, just like sky's the limit with mechanics and especially with crypto. [20:38] in how viral this has gone and the crypto circles and how much people are into it. What you spoke to at the beginning is it's amazing. There's so much great feedback. People are so invested and excited about it. And [20:51] I wonder how you have been handling [20:56] both the useful... [20:58] feedback and criticism and and out of a goodness of people's hearts wanting to be like this would be fun or this would be interesting while also balancing i'm sure a lot of really intense one pressure to just deliver a game that's really fun to people or having i don't know i i've been sitting on calls every night at 8 p.m with groups of people and people really give a shit and i'm like oh man there's an intensity to this game and a variety of people playing it and so i'm curious

[21:28] Like how you've been able to balance like, okay, these are, [21:31] this goes into a pot that's useful for me. And we can think about for this season or next season, this is stuff that's, [21:36] not my vision for the game or... [21:39] has just been just negative feedback and how you've been sort of balancing that the onslaught that I'm sure you've been getting from players. Yeah, honestly, I think just the fact that I wanted to build this because it was a game that I wanted to play helps so much with that. So if someone says, oh, I, you know, I've been searching the screen for a hidden immunity idol. And in my head, I'm like, oh, as a player, that would be sick to find a hidden immunity idol. Like that's [22:09] as like, oh, you should be able to, [22:11] create a DAO and split the pot and, you know, there should be bots and all this stuff. And it's like, as a player, like, I personally think that would ruin the game. So I'm not, you know, maybe we do that in future seasons. But yeah, just kind of like using [22:26] my personal player hat to decide, like, what is important to prioritize and what's not. Luckily, this is season one and V1 and was always meant to be [22:35] essentially like a beta for those in our immediate network. So I think like having that excuse has always has come in handy. But luckily, even though everyone wants to win and is very invested in it, like [22:48] seems like the overarching mindset is like, [22:51] this is so great. And like, I, I, yeah, anything that I'm adding could only make it more fun in the future. [22:58] So I think everyone's like overall on board with having fun on the internet. I think so too. What has not gone as you expected or like what's been the most surprising thing so far? Yeah. Okay. So I think this like...

[23:13] kumbaya, like we're all in this together. So I love Wagme culture and like I know it's a big thing in crypto, but [23:20] I always thought that in a game where you have to vote each other out and one person wins, that would be a lot more ruthless and cutthroat than it is. And there were a lot of tribes, and I don't know if either of you were a part of this, that were like, [23:34] We're refusing our right to vote and we're abstaining and we're going to hold strong and like, [23:40] I respect that decision. It's a bold strategy and we'll see how it plays out for folks. But I guess I was very surprised by how much everyone wanted an individual game to be. [23:51] a team game. [23:52] Did you expect that, like, I'm sure there's more people in the game now than you had anticipated. Meaning more players in season one? Uh, no, I mean more players left by night nine. I think this is about where I imagined it. I think last night in particular was a bloodbath because so many tribes withheld voting and that's something we very clearly need to fix for the future. Like in Survivor you can't like refuse your vote. Not something that honestly crossed any of our minds. [24:19] But I thought like wanting to vote each other out would be the most fun part. But maybe that's just like my sick mind. I just got to say, it's kind of sweet that the unexpected emergent behavior is something that's so kind. Yeah, everyone's so wholesome. So wholesome, yeah. Everyone like wanting to take care of each other in these little telegram chats. So there's something kind of nice about it, too. Oh, for sure. I love it. It's very like Harry Potter, you know.

[24:45] It's so funny. I just have to say about the hidden immunity aisle. [24:49] funny things that happened to me. I saw you guys post a picture of [24:53] Jeff Probst with holding a hidden immunity idol. And I was like, great. There's going to be a hidden immunity aisle. Like I know exactly what that is. Like, okay, I'm going to go down this rabbit hole. And then I saw someone respond and it was like a screenshot of them in Google search. And it was like survivor, survivor, [25:10] necklace game and i was like these these fools yeah yeah they don't even know the core game i know i know you don't deserve to win and then i went down a completely wrong rabbit hole i spent at least two hours yesterday being like okay we're all in this tribe barracuda barracuda was the outback season this is who won that outback season i'm in the wikipedia pages on it i'm like they hit it they it's in the wiki links like i'm like going through wiki links trying to find [25:40] command f survivor the game on everything you would do well on today's challenge oh bummer huge bummer for me but my final like guess was going because the only interaction that i thought you could do on the page was there's like a little chat for people who didn't play and i was like okay maybe i'm supposed to enter the winner it was like the first uh woman i think her name was like lisa or something like that and so i was like yes and so i was like backslash and like trying to

[26:10] me and they were like I got it oh and I was like man [26:14] I was, I was going to take that person down the wrong path. So I'm glad that it is always very funny. Uh, [26:21] I don't know if funny is the right word, but watching people go down this rabbit hole. Like we just, a couple, a couple of players either accidentally bought in twice or sent [26:32] sent 0.1 ETH to the multisig after entries closed. So we went through and refunded a bunch of players yesterday from the multisig, and one player was [26:41] was DMing the account. Like I found the transactions from yesterday and like, I'm on it for this challenge. And in my head, I'm just like, no, those are literally just refunds. Oh no. So yeah, you can't like, you want to, you want to, um, scream like you're not on the right track. Like I saw the chats yesterday in real time, people were doing like backslash immunity, backslash things like that. But it's just like, you almost have to let them play the game without interfering. I don't know how you've done it. You've remained very strong. I, I, I don't think [27:11] i'd be like it's it's this you should go do it yeah luckily there we're so busy that i don't um [27:16] that yeah are you like in real time making adjustments challenges yeah i mean the first the first challenge uh what which was the irl scavenger hunt for a clue that was hidden within chris dixon's book in williamsburg we were supposed to launch pac-man that day and brian and ty on the team were basically like we need we need more time like what can we do instead and and that like literally the night before i went live i was like what if we just like

[27:42] hit a clue IRL and just like, so yeah. So the night before that challenge, we thought of that and built it and shipped it. [27:51] The night before the Hidden Immunity Idols, I was on a Twitter spaces where I heard someone say that would be great. And we built it. The tribe shuffle that was never supposed to happen. I had a friend who's playing the game call me and was just like way too confident. Just like sitting pretty. I run my tribe. I have it in the bag. And I was like, you know what? I am going to shuffle tribes because people are way too cocky and confident right now. I love it. Yeah. So all of it is in real time. [28:21] Thank you. [28:21] Okay, a few more questions. I feel like I don't know if we can ask you who you think is going to win because voting is going to be live tomorrow when this episode. Yeah, no comment. So it feels risky. I do want to say that the boys club, we, Natasha and I have, I'm not going to put a target on anyone's back, but we have our favorites and we have some side chats and I'm gunning for those folks. Right, yeah, I think there are definitely a few outcomes that I could see. [28:50] taking place. I think either, and I don't know if you said this on the episode or not, but for those of you that don't know this, if you are eliminated at any point throughout the game on the finale, the power then switches back into your hands and you cast a vote for the winner. So you can't just be like a ruthless backstabber and expect to win. You almost need to play a respected game amongst your peers to have a shot. But yeah, I could see a world in which people log in and they recognize

[29:20] Alliance and want to support them. I know you mentioned, you know, the Boys Club chat, like a very, very famous survivor strategy is women supporting women. So I could see a world in which that happens. Yeah, but by the way, Dylan, you probably put a target on our back. You tweeted earlier this week about the Female Alliance. And then we're like, okay, blow us up. [29:44] I was like, why are you coming for us like that? That was not supposed to put a target on anyone's [29:50] genuine survivor fan like seeing it happen in real time in this game i was trying to introduce you to the other females playing the game i totally get it it's all good it's all good okay this is a community question who is wilbert i don't know [30:08] I genuinely don't know because I don't have access to the telegrams that are like [30:14] being used to collude and plot your alliances. We like very strategically made, drive-specific and general chats for the game, but [30:23] um we had everyone connect their twitter account so you could like [30:27] co-boot off platform i yeah i don't know apparently from what i hear because everyone keeps telling me everything but wilbert is uh [30:36] a a i guess a telegram character who is influencing the decision of the game so i don't i don't know who wilbert is but i can uh for the listener he is the puppet master of last night's vote my experience of last night was that i for my mental health didn't check anything until like

[30:58] 840. I was like gonna have 20 minutes and I knew from some other people that I was [31:03] I was not voted for yet. So I was like, okay, not voted for yet. This is great. [31:08] And I had remained pretty quiet all day because I was like, my strategy is like fly under the radar, go hard on the last day and then big social push on the last day and like corral, you know, love for me to win. Great strategy. And so I remained pretty quiet on the chats. And then I was like, hey, not voted for. Great. And then I was like, who should I target? Talking to a few different people. And then an alliance member was like, you need to message this person, Wilbert. And I was like, who's Wilbert? [31:38] get your instructions from for tonight so i messaged wilbert on telegram no way and i was like i hear you can be trusted and wilbert was like hi and then gives me a name to vote for and i was like who's that and he was like your assignment no who does this guy think he is and i was like i'm taking out this guy i'm waiting to the very end and i'm taking out wilbert and so i like try to like find any sort of way to match his telegram to who he could be in the game [32:08] alliance member that was like, I voted with Wilbert. He's who I'm taking my instructions from. And is that person still in? Yes. Yes. That person, both people actually who got instructions are still in. But then with 20 seconds left, I got two votes against me. On voting, are you ever going to reveal who voted for who? I'm not this season. I think everyone that was eliminated wants to know who voted for them. I think, yeah, I think, I don't know what, what good can come out from that. I think it would just

[32:38] when a lot of the tribes were [32:42] abstaining from voting, folks would reach out and basically say, like, if I [32:47] If I decide to cast a vote, I need to know that my tribe mates won't know [32:52] it was me or that or who I voted for. And so I, I publicly tweeted that season one votes will remain anonymous. And I can't go back on that despite the insane bribes I've been getting to I do want to say I got voted out on the Flappy Bird challenge. I do also want to say that I had the highest number of efforts in my group and the lowest score. That would have been me. I literally can't get one on Flappy Bird. I don't know how people do it. I don't know how people do it either. [33:22] even after campaigning and showing that I actually round out the team really well. I bring these other skills to the table that aren't gaming. I'm not going to be a gamer, but there's like these other kids who can do the gaming stuff. Yeah. Anyway, that didn't work. I got, I got two votes against me that night. And I was so pissed. I wrote a really angry message to the group. And I said, if I ever find out who voted for me, you're banned from boys club parties for life. And I sent that in like five different groups. And then I woke up the next morning. I was like, man, probably a bit too much. This is why we can't reveal. [33:52] share of uh angry dms that the next morning have uh were followed up with i'm sorry i slept on it thanks for building such a great game my experience of this was as soon as i got voted off i was like i'm tweeting i was gonna spend the full 41 eth on throwing a party for you nerds and none of you had my back in the end and dina was like just just just like just wait just sleep on it just see how you feel in the morning and i was like fine and then in the morning i was like never mind everybody

[34:22] get together and have a beer. I think this is why on the actual Survivor, you don't like see who voted you out until you watch it because by then you have like months to get over the pain of being backstabbed. Yeah. [34:36] I do say that we would like to formally pitch you to do, you know, the like Bravo after show episodes where it's like a recap. You bring on the guest, the person who has voted off. For sure. I think Boys Club should do that for season two. We'll do the post show coverage. I would love nothing more than that. Honestly, like when I spoke when I spoke to you about this idea, I was like the ultimate goal would be like a companion, like a fan podcast, basically like a companion show. So perfect. That sounds great. Post game coverage from Boys Club. [35:04] Yeah, that sounds great. Well, thank you so much for coming on. Thank you for providing so much fun and anxiety for us the past 10 days. It's been a pleasure. Yeah, honestly, it's been so it's been so fun to watch. [35:18] And can't wait for season two. We'll be there. Amazing. I hope you win season two. Thanks, Dylan. Thank you. Take care. When you're first getting started with crypto, it can be scary. Am I doing this right? Is this just like my bank or trading app? How is it new and different? Well, that's why we love Kraken. They have a 24-7, 365 customer support team that's there to hold your hand all along the way. This isn't a 9-to-5, Monday-to-Friday bank. This is crypto. It's all the time. Anyone's welcome. Open door policy. Come one, come all.

[35:48] club. Not investment advice. Crypto trading involves risk of loss. Cryptocurrency services are provided to U.S. and U.S. territory customers by Payward Ventures Incorporated, PBI, DBA, Kraken. [36:03] We're going to get into some draft tweets here. [36:05] But before we do... [36:07] A little housekeeping. [36:09] As you know, if you listen to this podcast, we have moved to online. [36:14] which is our internet news stories show to a different feed. [36:21] Thank you. [36:21] please go subscribe to that feed because we're going to stop posting to online to this feed, and then you will miss it. So that link is also going to be in the show notes. That's just a quick piece of homework for you. Go there. [36:32] Subscribe. [36:34] That's all. So for those who don't know, draft tweets is the part of the show where we go into our drafts on Twitter. X, I suppose. Draft Xs. And we read off some of the drafts that didn't make it to the timeline for... [36:50] a number of reasons. I have one here. It's not very funny, but it's kind of topical. [36:55] Let's hear it. [36:56] Telling my husband I can't help with kids' bedtime because I'll get voted off internet survivor. [37:01] The true story. [37:03] True story, that one. Oh my gosh, my favorite moment. Two favorite moments really quick. Watching Dina was desperate day six. Day seven, I don't know what it was, floppy bird day. And I was in a room outside of her office working on something, trying to write something. And I hear her just go, okay, okay, let's just do it. Let's just do it, dudes. Just let me know how to do it. I'm here. And I was like, okay, she's on a call with her team. And she's trying to get

[37:33] And it wasn't working what they were teaching, trying to teach her. And then she goes, I know this is the worst OPSEC in the world. And maybe we can find a workaround. But like, does someone want to sign into my wallet? And I was like, she's at the edge of herself. And then her her kid comes home. Oscar's what, seven, eight? [37:48] Seven. Seven years old. He's great at Roblox. She was like, Oscar, I'm so glad you're home. Sets him up in front of the computer and is like, you work from here. You need to get above a 41 and then comes back upstairs. And she's like literally editing red line documents on her cell phone because her kid has her computer. And he's so sweet. And he's coming up the stairs. [38:09] to the office and he was like, mom, I can't do it. 41 is a really high number and the best I've gotten is seven. And Dino was like, [38:17] well okay and he was like i really want to help you and tina's like well this is how you can help and i was like oh my gosh i was in a dark place i really knew that i was it was in big trouble and i ended up getting voted off that night but i knew i was in trouble could not play that game so yeah mistakes well mistakes were made oh man okay here's my draft tweet me to my friend who's [38:44] In quotes. [38:45] Me at one day pregnant, babies craving a Xanax. It doesn't really work. But what I'm trying to convey is, you know, [38:55] one day pregnant, me, one day pregnant, baby's craving is a... [39:00] meme format that's going around Twitter this past... A good one. A really good one. It's a really funny ones. And...

[39:07] I had a girls weekend. One of my friends is so great. She's 220, 22 days pregnant. She's been pregnant forever. And I kept everything. I kept making a joke. One day pregnant, baby's craving a margarita, baby's craving a whatever, a sauna, like everything. And I was just like, man, this was a joke. And she does think it's funny, but this is also probably so annoying. And I wish I couldn't convey it. And then I kept being like, what do you guys think the best format of this tweet is? And they were good sports, but it's too, it's too much cognitive load. [39:37] Getting that joke a million times over one weekend or having to then workshop the joke for Twitter at the end of the weekend. [39:48] Because I think they're both equally annoying. Yeah, they were like, go play your survivor game, please. [39:53] Okay, see you next week. Okay, bye.