Two Girls One Demo [Day]

[00:00] I think like, [00:01] I think I was like just thinking about this podcast all day and I was just like, [00:07] Is it just going to be us like sad and tired now who wants to listen to that? Or like who wants to listen to every week? Be feeling like, Hey, I feel really stupid. [00:18] And like, yeah, yeah, yeah. People don't want to listen to that every week. No, I don't. Well, not every week you do feel stupid. It's just been two weeks in a while. [00:29] Hello, I'm Natasha Hoskins. I'm Dina Burke. And this is Boys Club. Wait, is it just Boys Club? It's just Boys Club. The Boys Club podcast? No, no. [00:40] Just boy stuff. [00:42] What's happening in our DAO this week? So we put out some invites for this event and they sold out immediately, like literally in minutes. So we're doing an event at the Freehold in Williamsburg. [00:56] Um, on, we're calling it to find the relationship going a little deeper. You're not dating anymore. You're, you're in the crypto world now and we're talking crypto and climate, um, [01:07] So I'm nervous. I'm nervous. Um, [01:11] I feel like you're really shouldering a lot of the burden for this event as the moderator. [01:19] Someone who knows literally... [01:21] Nothing about crypto and nothing about climate. [01:24] No, it's going to be great. Honestly, it's going to be awesome. Um, [01:28] Chelsea from Klima Dow. I believe that's how it's pronounced. I know I need to clarify before next Wednesday due diligence on that. So Klima Dow, they are doing all of this like voluntary carbon markets, hackings. I mean, it's not hacking. They're, they're tokenizing carbon as an asset. And, um, yeah,

[01:51] are disrupting the voluntary carbon market, which [01:55] Uh, [01:57] I think one question maybe for Chelsea next week could be like, [02:03] What's the carbon market? [02:05] No, I know what the carbon market is. [02:09] I know it from our other Climate and Crypto event. [02:11] Which blew my mind. And honestly, I do have to attribute getting into crypto to the deeper learning I have about climate. Because all of these things have come to the surface for me around... [02:26] what levers you have to pull to actually affect climate change. And so it's been cool, but I feel nervous because there's 200 people coming. Yeah. And it's a lot of humans. It's a [02:38] Right. Thanks. I didn't think about that. Also, like I... [02:45] Our community events, [02:46] are all women, [02:48] And the energy in the room and these events, those events are like, everybody is rooting for you. Everybody's rooting for each other. Like there's such a spirit of like generosity and camaraderie. [02:58] And it's so fun. And I just don't know what to expect with this group. I have no idea. [03:05] It was open to the public. I think it'll be majority women because it's, it's, you know, boys club, but yeah. [03:12] Oh, yeah. Did we see how many men... [03:16] are [03:17] I haven't looked at the list. I haven't looked intentionally. I've not looked at the list. I'm going to pop a propanol. Shout out propanol. Shout out to the beta blocker lifestyle that both Natasha and I live for any...

[03:27] Public speaking. [03:28] you can trust that we have juiced and taken a beta blocker. And honestly, anyone who's listening to this, that has, um, [03:37] Any anxiety about public speaking, [03:40] I have so much anxiety about public speaking and... [03:42] um it has made all the difference i have [03:45] Yeah, I have like, I couldn't, you knew me. I could not... [03:49] get on stage. I was, I had a, [03:51] like a phobia of public speaking until you introduced me to beta blockers. So, and I just want to say that it's, [03:59] A very benign drug. [04:01] It's it just all it does is it slows down your heart rate so that. [04:05] You don't get like the jitters. [04:07] which then [04:08] perpetuate more jitters. It takes away the physical, the physical stuff. Yeah. So anyway, and you basically just go to your doctor and you say, I have a public speaking anxiety and an [04:19] I'm interested in this beta blocker solution. And they're very, they're very chill about it. And that makes me know that like, it's not a, it's not a weirdo drug where it's like, oh, she's addicted because great. Here's. I mean, honestly, I don't know if we want to get into this, but I didn't like fully trust you because you have like a much more wild background than I do. So I was sort of like, Dina's like, I don't know. And then I went to the doctor and she was like, oh yeah. Do you want propanenol? And I was like, oh yeah, totally. So it's totally above [04:49] Anyway, okay, so you'll be on the ProPen and All next week. Yep, hit the head. And I think it's going to go great. I think people are... Chelsea's wonderful, so also... Chelsea's truly wonderful. And I think that people are...

[05:03] much like us, genuinely interested and don't know very much. And it's an opportunity for us all to learn from Chelsea, who does... [05:13] Who knows more than us? So I would- Okay, so we have that next Wednesday. Yeah. Oh my gosh. And, but before that, we have demo day for C-Club. [05:23] So this is a big happening in our DAO this week. And basically, C-Club is this amazing DAO accelerator that, [05:33] We mentioned it last week on the pod, very smart people who run it. [05:37] And very, very patient people as well. Patient with... [05:41] with us, not knowing anything. And, um, [05:45] Thank you. [05:45] basically like through the past eight weeks in C club, we've, um, [05:52] we've learned what a DAO is as we've been building one. And, uh, so it culminates in, in a demo day and that's, um, it's sort of like, I guess you could compare it to Y Combinators like, [06:07] pitch day. It's not the same because it's not for like investment. It's more just to pitch to people who could participate in your community, but it feels, it's got a similar feel to me as we've been preparing for it. Like how do we distill what boys club is in this very short, we have two to four minutes to talk about what boys club is. And we can't just say like vibes over and over and over again, you know, it's gotta be a little bit more. We could, but I don't know how that would land.

[06:37] Thank you. [06:37] it's challenging to distill what boys club is because they, [06:41] it's what, what, [06:44] What we're all doing is like, [06:46] building a world where like we're building a world of boys club. It's not like versus building a business where it's like you have a, [06:53] widget with this type of profit margin. And this is what the go-to-market strategy looks like. And like, there's a clear lane and a clear path for a traditional business. But like, [07:05] in this... [07:07] Tao, this has, it has so many tentacles and it's like, which one do you focus on? And how do you tell that story in a way that like, [07:17] It's only interesting, I think, when you see the full sort of scope of [07:21] what everyone is doing across the Dow. And like, that's just really hard to, um, [07:28] yeah, like say in a couple of minutes and like this snappy funny way. I mean, [07:33] I think we, I don't know. So that's how I struggle with it. Yeah. So anyway... [07:40] And but the good thing about Demo Day is that, I mean, will you be taking propanol? [07:45] Yeah, I think I'm going to. [07:47] I think even, even digitally, it's not, um, it's not video is no video. So I feel worse about that. I feel worse about that. I know you're all, you've been saying that over and over again, but you can't read a room like, um, [08:03] On Discord stage. Yeah. It's Discord stage. It's like Twitter spaces. It's just audio clubhouse vibes. And I'm just like...

[08:10] I don't. [08:12] I need to see my people. I need to know what's then. And it's quiet. There's no feedback loop. Like you don't know what's landing. So that doesn't feel great to me, but yeah, [08:21] Also, like, it's four minutes. It'll happen in the paper. I also, like... [08:26] don't know what we're at, what we want. I think part of what [08:30] I'm struggling with is like, [08:32] what do we want? Like, do we want people to, [08:36] join. Like, I feel like [08:38] Is that the... [08:40] pool from which... [08:43] we want to be like recruiting people in boys club from like, I think we want to be recruiting people who are like new to this world and coming in fresh or right. [08:51] And so it's hard to like, [08:53] deliver the message of like the importance of onboarding women in web three, [08:58] to a bunch of people who are already super into Web3. [09:01] And, you know, [09:02] Like, [09:04] I don't know. So, [09:05] But... [09:07] I'm sure it'll be valuable. [09:08] the job board. [09:10] Very hot. [09:11] Hot. Very, very hot. [09:13] For... [09:15] fully people loving it. [09:17] And I think... [09:18] I was... [09:19] talking with Parker, who's sort of running the show for the job board. And she was saying that like, it's 50, 50 on, um, [09:29] applicants, [09:30] And... [09:32] jobbers. I mean, honestly, this is employers, employers. This is like,

[09:42] incredible. It's the dream. Like, I feel like I kind of, my sister last week was like, [09:48] saying like, well, I know like why people join boys club. And my sister is so supportive. So it's not about that, but she was like, it's because they're trying to figure out how they can make money. And I was like, no, that's not what boys club is about. And she was like, oh, okay. What is it about? And I was like, it's people... [10:01] It's for women to find like their opportunity. [10:03] in this space and janitor's like yeah their opportunity to make money and i'm like no no no no like it's so much bigger than that and i see that every day and this job board feels like such proof of that where [10:14] Women are trying to [10:16] Thank you. [10:17] expand and, [10:18] their capability, their careers. And this is such a, [10:23] clear way to do that. [10:25] that just like came up in a week, you know? Yeah, it was amazing. So if you're thinking about, [10:32] taking the plunge to do like full-time web three lifestyle, then, um, definitely check out the, the job board that we posted in discord. Okay. And last thing happening in our, uh, Dow this week, um, [10:46] we've been impersonated. [10:48] I forgot about this. Honestly, I'm not. [10:53] The highest form of flattery. Here's the best part of the story. Okay. So there was two Twitter, like weird bot things that... [11:00] uh, [11:01] yeah, like Boys Club crypto with a zero or something on it. And [11:05] There's two of them and they both like bought followers so that [11:08] they looked, they had the same ratio of following to followers as we did. I don't, whatever they, they did the, they did their homework and did the work. They did the work. And, um,

[11:18] In the sort of frantic... [11:22] Those are some frantic moments. [11:24] trying to figure out what was happening. Like at some point we thought we had been hacked. And so you're being very generous. You're being very generous. I literally called Dina and I was like, we're hacked. She was like, what? I was like, we've been hacked. If I had looked two seconds. So it turned out we hadn't been hacked, but in the blessing really in that was that we learned that [11:45] Um, [11:47] our OPSEC. [11:49] Our operational security needed some tightening up. [12:03] Now we're entering the feelings check-in of our podcast, which I cried at the beginning of this podcast. I don't know if we're going to add it in because like, this isn't the sad girl club, you know? And I, I, the feeling I'm having honestly is our podcast. [12:16] There was such incredible reception to the first episode, which was so kind and very surprising. [12:22] And then I had this moment of panic of like, oh, no. [12:27] we have to do this every week. We have to like deliver, you know? And then I was like, nobody wants to listen to me. [12:36] feel stupid and sad every week. I mean, you never know, but [12:42] I... [12:43] I do. It made me really sad when you were sad. You were very sad. [12:48] before we hit record. So I feel like, can you just expand a little bit? Because those are big feelings. I feel like we need to...

[12:54] Get them out. [12:56] This is something that's incredible about Dina. She's always been this way. [13:01] Her tolerance for people is so... [13:05] Hi, it's it's. [13:07] Unbelievable. Like, [13:09] old bosses that we both used to have, like just in every capacity stuff does not get under Dina's skin. It just doesn't. It's insane to me. And literally everything gets under my skin. So a lot of the feeling check-in are me being like, Hey, this was like really annoying to me and her being like, Oh yeah. Yeah. [13:29] I'm sorry you're feeling that way in a great way, but also like not in a way where she's like me too. So I had just some things were really bothering me. And then we dug a little deeper and I think it was just coming from a place of like, [13:42] I. [13:43] don't, [13:45] have capacity in my life right now. So that makes all of these things feel really intense. And [13:52] And then makes me feel bad at everything where I don't feel like I'm operating at a hundred in every time. [13:58] In any area. [13:59] And so then... [14:00] Any feedback, anything? [14:03] Any misstep from other people? [14:07] There's just like a real lack of... [14:11] tolerance on my end. And then I internalize it as my own failing. [14:17] And then feel really sad. I feel like I'm not providing any value to... [14:22] Boys club and to you and...

[14:27] It makes me feel sad. Yeah. It makes me feel really sad. [14:30] And then you were really nice to me and that helped. [14:33] Okay, so I really want to talk about... [14:37] Oh, your feelings? I have a big feeling, yeah. [14:39] You have a big feeling. What's your big, um, I'm speaking to a journalist tomorrow. [14:43] And that brings up a whole, every feeling, what feeling is not present, present, like literally it's the full menu of feelings. [14:53] Thank you. [14:54] Thank you. [14:54] I am going to get roasted. She's going to make fun of me. I'm going to say something stupid. That's going to be the headline. They're going to call us an MLM. [15:05] Um, [15:07] I'm not going to shout out Vox just for people who don't know. We don't think we're an MLM. We're 100% not an MLM at all. But it was it was implied. [15:19] So, [15:20] Really loosely. It was actually fine, but it just got under my, that got, that gets under my skin. Um, [15:26] And also the biggest one is just like letting people down in boys club. Like I feel... [15:31] responsible to be [15:34] like the best steward of this relationship. [15:38] thing. [15:40] possible and [15:42] If I missed up. [15:43] in something that's really public. [15:45] like that. [15:47] I would feel really bad for the people who are in the community and who believe in the idea of it. And like, [15:55] I don't know. So that's,

[15:58] it's just stressful and also like gotcha questions from her, from this journalist. [16:06] So those are all my feelings, but I'm sort of at peace with it. [16:09] at this point i just know i [16:12] It's just... [16:13] One of those things where every time we talk about this, I'm just like, I couldn't think of a better steward, a more responsible steward. [16:20] of boys club than you to communicate the vision and the mission and your heart behind it and the work that we do. And, [16:28] I don't worry about it at all. [16:31] at all. And it's so funny. It's actually... [16:34] Very similar to my feelings where I'm like, this is really annoying to me. I can't get past this. And you're like, I'm really sorry. It's the same map to this where I'm like, you're going to do amazing. And it's going to go great. And I have no doubt in my mind. [16:45] And even playing out the worst case scenario, let's say you totally shit the bed and it's like so bad. And it was just like, whoa, that was so embarrassing. And there's a horrible headline. It's like. [16:57] Here today, gone tomorrow. [16:59] It doesn't speak to the entirety of who you are at all. That's true. Yeah, that's true. [17:05] Anyway, we'll see. [17:07] It is what it is. I can't wait. I can't wait to see. Okay. That's any more feelings? [17:12] No feelings. Enough feelings. We've completed the feelings check-in. [17:20] Okay. So with us right now, we have Nicole DeAvis. She is co-creator at C Club, which is a DAO that builds and invests in communities. So Boys Club is a part of C Club's most recent cohort, which is how we've met Nicole. Before that, she was at Berkeley's Institute for Creative Entrepreneurship, where she worked on streamlining metadata and payment tracking for artists. So she has this really cool music industry meets tech background. And now she's wading into this

[17:50] Um, she's been just an incredible leader at C club through our eight week journey with them and just really always seemed up for laugh. And so that's why we're really delighted to have you on. Welcome. Thank you so much. I love to laugh for sure. I feel like that's what makes web three so fun is that we are here for the fun. Yeah. And I also think that we need the more fun and funny and web three. So as much as we can sort of put, put that into the conversation, the better. [18:20] Nicole's joining us for our segment called Explain the Tweet. [18:26] Explain the tweet. [18:27] uh is basically just that we we invite someone on who's written something funny on twitter.com and we get them to sort of unpack it with us um and we also get sort of uh a read on Natasha's understanding of the tweet and my understanding of the tweet and then we go from there okay so the tweet for this evening uh that Nicole tweeted uh on March 22nd twitter.com [18:57] Okay. It's one of my favorite Twitter meme formats at the moment, which is so good. It's like the shaking hand with like, it's sort of. [19:07] It's subverting the tweet format in a way, and that it's like all spaced out. So it has one thing on one side, another thing on the other side, and like the little handshake emoji in the middle. Okay, so this one is Web3.com. [19:20] Handshake emoji.

[19:22] "The Bachelor." [19:23] And then underneath that, it says here for the right reasons. Oh, it's Natasha, where, what's your percentage on, on comprehension of the suite? Okay. Well, first I kind of have to come clean because I feel a little nervous because [19:38] Nicole, because I feel like [19:40] My teacher is in the room. Like, like I have such a teacher student relationship to you. I don't even have elbow patches on any of my garments. So I'm like, I really want to ace this. Um, okay. So my understanding, I feel like there's a really unique opportunity where my understanding might be higher than Dina's because I'm, [20:02] I would say for 15 years of my life, I was a massive person. [20:06] Massive bachelor fan. [20:08] Every Monday night I would host parties at my house, huge. And then, um, I had some conviction and I was like, wow, I'm a feminist. This is wrong. And so I stopped watching. Then I fell back in. We don't need to get into that, but I would say my literacy is very high. I would, I would say, I mean, as much as I feel comfortable, 90%. [20:27] Basically saying just bachelor generally, you're at a 90 bachelor 100 besides the last three seasons, but web three at a, you know, 50, I would say we split the difference in the middle and say on the higher side, go 90, because I understand that basically it's like, there's people here who are building a better future. And there's people here who are maybe here for cash grab. So we're trying to weed out.

[20:53] Who's here to be an Instagram influencer? [20:55] And who's here to find love. [20:57] Okay. So you're at what? 50? [21:00] No, 90%. You're at 90. You're at a 90. I'm at a 90. [21:04] Um, so I, I feel like, [21:08] I the here for the right reasons on the Web3 side. [21:15] Yeah, I feel like there's like, it's like the sort of money versus building builder mentality, but obviously Nicole just would, can't wait to get into, um, [21:25] your meaning of it, but the bachelor I'm at, I'm at a zero for, I mean, I've only, I've, I've never watched an episode. Natasha has given me some recaps, um, passionate recaps. I'll say, uh, play by plays, um, [21:42] And I can imagine that [21:45] Yeah, like guys go on... [21:48] Like people go on and they don't, they aren't really looking for love. [21:51] Thank you. [21:52] So, okay. So here we are, Nicole. [21:55] Please explain the truth. [21:58] I mean, I, first of all, just thought it was comical that this term was popping up in Web3 because it is very much a sort of bachelor slash bachelor in paradise slash just general reality TV meme. And they take it with such gravity. [22:18] in those shows of, you know, oh, like Natasha's not here for the right reasons. And it's just this like really elevated, like only a chosen few are. And it's this sort of very esoteric, like, how can you really know? Nobody knows. What does it actually mean? Yeah. And so I always found that hilarious. I'm sure that there's, you know, drinking games or whatever around that in those

[22:48] of equally hilarious when that [22:50] phrase started popping up and every once in a while you would hear it. And I mean, honestly, I appreciate both of your takes on it. Um, admittedly, I probably didn't think of it with the same depth, which I think is probably indicative of a tweet in general. Yeah. [23:09] That's totally fair enough. But I wonder, when you see the web here for the right reasons stuff coming up around Web3, do you think that people are being like... [23:19] tongue in cheek, like sort of knowing that that's like a freak. No, no. I mean, no, I think that they are being precious about it. Yeah, exactly. And so I think that that's the piece where, [23:29] But I do think that there's kind of this sort of funny cachet or exclusionary... [23:37] or like exclusiveness around it. Um, similarly in the bachelor where sometimes I think it's really hard to know if you're here for the right reasons or like who gets to define that. Right. And what those terms are. And I think they also vary community by community. And so I think there's a portion of it where, um, it is sort of a call or a call back to the, our calls to adventure that we talk a lot about at sea club of what does the call to adventure, um, um, [24:05] I once had a sort of fellow colleague at Berkeley talk about flying your freak flag. And if you can fly that and people resonate and respond to it, [24:18] Um, the, that's the people, those are the people that are going to follow your, whatever your entrepreneurial entrepreneurial idea is. And, um, those are the people that are going to resonate with whatever it is that you're building. And I feel like it's very much the same with that call to adventure. So I think that there is that element of like, make your call to adventure clear, um, flash the, the, you know, the back call, whatever it is that lets people know this is who we are. And if this is something that resonates with you, you should come.

[24:48] be here. And then if you, you know, if you are there, then you're sort of quote unquote there for the right reasons. And so I think that there's that. [24:55] part of it. But I think that, you know, the other piece that I think that you were getting at within Web3 is that there is this very sort of [25:04] I don't know, we like to sort of throw up these divisions of you're a builder or you're here to do a cash grab or you're, you know, a degen. And is that a good thing or a bad thing? [25:17] And so I think that it's also just kind of funny in some ways where there's both the wag me, but also the like being here for the right reasons. Man, I totally relate to that. I feel like I think I see it. I see it a lot around the Dow discourse on Twitter. [25:34] where there's a lot of policing around what is and what isn't a doubt. And honestly, like I've, I am getting nervous that we're going to like get called out by the doubt police that they're going to be like, this isn't, you know, I know Natasha doesn't care about that, but like, I I'm nervous. And I do see it in like. [25:52] the wider you're right that like it's very present in this sort of wider web three community as well where it's like what's there's like the sort of purest [26:01] And then there's... [26:03] And there's everyone else and there's all these little sub communities within that and like sort of every... [26:12] I get like part of the reason, part of the reason I get so nervous on Twitter is that like, I feel like I'm going to misstep into something and, or I'll tweet something and then it will be sort of like.

[26:22] misused on the podcast exactly exactly and then there's total context collapse and now we're spending 15 minutes talking about here for the right reasons right is this the right reason or not um so yeah exactly though and I'm and I'm curious like how you how like you are working at the sort of coalface of the DAO world and like I'm sure you come up against the DAO police a lot and [26:52] Thank you. [26:52] What's it, what's it like for you when that comes up? [26:56] Yeah, that's... [26:58] An excellent question, which I really appreciate. I feel like the Dow police are now in my heads where I'm constantly [27:05] questioning myself and whether I'm here for the right reasons. My actions are there for the right reasons. And I think that there's a hundred percent part of that where on top of it, we're women. And so of course we're constantly questioning ourselves and whether we should be here and whether we're doing it right. And so I try to get out of my head, but it's hard. But yeah, I mean, I think that one of the interesting pieces where I'm struggling right now is how we move an organization [27:35] forward and get where we want to be. We're coming out of SEO for, you know, the fourth accelerator cohort. We have really exciting hopes and dreams for what comes next. And how do we do that in a way that's authentically decentralized and, you know, building towards autonomy within these organizations and within these sort of smaller working groups, while at the same time achieving these pieces that, um,

[28:03] that [28:04] you know, our community has trusted us with achieving. And so that piece, like I very much, you know, am I here for the right reasons? Am I showing up in a way that's authentic to principles while at the same time being true to the community? So, yeah, I mean, I think we, we quickly get into these actually like deeper questions as, as flip as that phrase may be. I think it's also, what's been interesting for me is that, [28:32] What's inherent in a startup is that things evolve. Like you're, you learn more, people start to [28:39] in a traditional startup, start to use your product. You start to evolve with that [28:44] is what the experience is for the user. And then with a DAO or with a community, it's hard because you have this thing that you all, [28:53] got into it for. And then if that evolves, it feels like, are we doing something wrong here? If the mission or the direction is changing, but that feels also like the inertia of starting something is that it will inherently sort of evolve over time. And then your reason for doing it [29:12] all the people and you know whatever in the bus with you have to sort of decide okay this is still the reason we want to do this and we're here for the right reason so i think that's been something i've come up against a lot is like [29:22] where is there space for evolving on what the initial... [29:27] Premises while still remaining true to what we all. [29:31] We're excited about initially.

[29:34] So I'm sure that's the case with C club too, is like, [29:36] how you guys have blown up and then you have all these other communities and DAOs coming into your, into your network and your sphere. And like, and inevitably that has to sort of change the [29:48] or form the direction in some way. [29:50] Yeah, I mean, I think, you know, this is not something that's happening, but I think it would be super interesting if, you know, all of a sudden we get enough sort of community momentum behind Seed Club and at some point it decides that. [30:06] running an accelerator is not the thing that's central to helping great people launch great projects. And there's another better way to do it or a different way. And so right now that's core. We run [30:19] accelerator cohorts. That's the main piece of what we do. And so, yeah, I think to your point, once that autonomy and decentralization really takes hold, whose job is it to define what the right reasons are and where you're going and how you're doing it? Yeah. [30:36] And, you know, I think that there's just that trust and, and like, [30:40] I guess going back to the bachelor metaphor, you really just have to like, you know, you have to trust that like you yourself are there for those right reasons and that other people are also showing up in that same way. And maybe I guess just like worry a little bit less about it. Oh, I mean. [31:01] We're all experiencing a journey to continue down the bachelor. We're on the screen together. Well, honestly, there's like a, I don't know if it's a response or it's like grouped, but someone.

[31:13] right below your tweet said this tweet should be canon. And honestly, I have to agree with them. So Nicole, thank you so much for coming on, talking about this tweet. Thank you so much. This was so fun. You're such a delight. I'm such a fan of Boys Club and so glad you came through the cohort. Thank you. Thanks. We'll talk to you soon. [31:34] Talk soon. [31:38] What are we doing? We're doing... [31:40] Too scared to tweet. [31:42] Okay. [31:43] First one, getting a ref haul for a crypto conference so I'm even more misunderstood. [31:48] pretty good pretty good i like it um okay [31:56] Me? Yeah. [31:57] Okay, a little explanation. [32:00] It is a Vox article. [32:03] and the article is referencing a movie called Deepwater, which is... [32:09] with Ana de Armas and Ben Affleck. You've been talking about this a lot. Is it psychosexual thriller? Psychosexual thriller. [32:19] And the Vox... [32:20] Headline is deep water is a movie for the mean and horny. [32:26] And my tweet was it me. [32:29] It's so not you. I think that's a very funny tweet. Um, [32:36] It feels very saucy for Twitter and you, but... [32:40] I mean... [32:41] It's funny. [32:43] Very private, private person. This is by the end of draft. Okay.

[32:48] Okay, you're up. Okay. [32:50] uh, [32:51] This one might need some explanation. [32:54] after I read it, but [32:56] Okay, not hanging up the phone when I'm done with the call as a power move. [33:01] Okay. [33:05] Let me just give you some context here. I'm here for it. [33:08] I... [33:10] Well, I mean, I guess that's basically it. Like, I just like, don't hang up the phone. [33:14] And yeah, you've been doing this with me and I've been like, hello. And you're like, oh, I'm done. I'm like, okay. And Dave, my husband was like, I, he was like, what are you doing? [33:24] And he was like, it's sort of like you're you're sort of just saying like, OK, I'm [33:30] you must leave my presence now. Like you have to, you have to be gone for my presence. Um, so, [33:37] That's, yeah, that's my second one. [33:39] But in your personal, personal, yeah, we're personal. [33:45] Okay. [33:46] Okay. This last one is again, really saucy, but I don't know. It just came to me and I just can't, I don't even think it'll be funny unless you see the video. You might've seen the video. So there was this video that went viral on Twitter of this man. I think he's in India. He's [33:59] And he's a taxi driver and he is trying to resuscitate people. [34:03] A monkey. Oh, yeah. [34:05] Okay. It's like, it's like, I don't know if he ran into it or something. And he's like pounding, pounding his heart, resuscitating it. Like mouth to mouth. Oh, wow. [34:14] And it's like 35 seconds of this. And it's like really intense. And...

[34:20] Then the monkey comes back to life and like clings, clings to him, kind of hugs him. Very sweet, but also like sort of weird. And it was like going around. I missed it. I missed it. [34:33] Well, okay. [34:35] I have a few to this specific tweet, so I'm just going to go through them. [34:39] What a call with at... [34:41] me Dina feels like at the end of a long day. Oh, that's nice. Is that a compliment? [34:47] Oh, thank you. Yeah. Yeah. You're welcome. Last one. Listening to a mindfulness book at 1.3 speed. [34:55] laughter [34:58] Wow. We've really improved. I feel like we really thought about this. We did our homework. We did. We did. Okay. So which one's going out? [35:06] What about, I feel like you did yours last week. So what if I do the... [35:12] The Ana de Armas one. Great. It me. Great. [35:14] Okay. [35:15] I have to do this, right? Yeah, you have to. Great, okay. [35:20] Oh my gosh. That feels intimate. Okay. All right, on that note. [35:26] Bye, guys. Bye.